Spotify Podcast:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2uYXTPwiXkddUwUQ25gtZd?si=27c1275deefc4a2d
Apple Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/jp/podcast/%E6%95%B0%E7%8F%A0%E7%B9%8B%E3%81%8E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%B7%E3%81%AE%E3%81%BF-%E3%81%86%E3%81%A1%E3%81%9F-%E3%81%99%E3%81%BA%E3%81%97%E3%82%83%E3%82%8B%E3%81%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%81%9F%E3%81%BF%E3%82%93-%E8%B6%B3%E8%85%B0%E3%81%92%E3%82%93%E3%81%8D%E6%95%99%E5%AE%A4-den-%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC/id1711320757?i=1000671764337